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I should like to ask, the ruling out of The Trial as a novel because it's an allegory-- it seems to me to be something wrong somewhere here. Because it's so would you rule Samson Agonistes out as a poem because it's an allegory? It seems to me allegory is a technique which is a vital part of the novel's baggage, and I don't see why you say that The Trial is not a novel. It--
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Mr. O'Connor, you're in Hyde Park country. But I see your point more clearly now.
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Well, The Trial-- The Trial is not-- is not a romantic novel either. I thought Mr. Simenon sort of laid that ghost last night with the quotation from Robert Desnos who had a monstrous collection of various types of novels. It seems to me that in trying to define the form, there's a danger of rarefying it to such an extent that several novelists that I know that are working in good faith are just about to close their notebook and go home and go back to selling shoes or something of that sort. Because there are a great many people who are absolutely convinced that they're writing novels, and I'm only glad, Mr. O'Connor, that you're not in charge of the jury which determines whether or not INAUDIBLE you got the job.
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